Friday, November 6, 2009

Artistic roller skating experts from 60' - 70's?

I know that I'm right but I need some support. I have always called jumps by their correct name. I am trying to point out the following in a skating forum.


Assuming that a skater is jumping in a counter clockwise direction:


a outside loop takes off from the right outside back edge and lands on the right foot and a back outside edge. When assisted by the free leg it becomes a mapes in roller skating.


A walley takes off from the right foot inside back edge and lands the the right foot on and back outside edge. When assisted by the free leg it becomes a toe walley. It is also called a toe walley in ice skating.





The loop comes from loops in figures wit a a jump in the middle.





An inside back loop takes off the left inside back edge and lands on the left inside back edge. It is like doing a salchow but landing on the left inside back edge. When assisted by the right free leg it becomes a toe loop. It is like a flip landing on the left inside back edge.

Artistic roller skating experts from 60' - 70's?
I rollerskated long ago but do not claim to be an expert! All of what you described are the same for ice skating . . . I compared it to the descriptions on this current site:


The Federation of Artistic Roller Skating


http://www.fars.co.uk/technical/tests/fr...





Loop - Yes


Take off backward outside to back outside on same foot





Mapes (out here we call it toe loop, though it was invented by Mapes). Yes, the free leg does go back to toe assist.


Take off back outside with toe to back outside on same foot





Walley - Yes


Take off back inside to back outside on same foot





Toe Walley - Yes


Take off back inside with toe to back outside on same foot





The loop name does stem from compulsary figures, but the jump is credited to its "inventor" Werner Rittberger.





I'm not sure what an inside back loop is . . . all I could think of is our "half loop" where it is landed on a back inside edge of the leg opposite of the normal landing leg . . .but even that we enter it like a loop on a back outside edge. Then there is a one-foot waltz or one-foot salchow that I've done for fun (but I don't think it's in any skating glossary) with that back inside edge landing. Otherwise, all other jumps land on the back outside edge. Toe loops are launched off a back outside edge with a toe assist, flips are launched off of a back inside edge with a toe assist - but both land on a back outside edge. Oh,I have heard of flips being called a toe salchow. I hope someone else can help you with that one!


http://www.jacksonskates.com/tech/jump.h...





Inside back loop as far as "figures" go - not the jump


http://books.google.com/books?id=F6cCAAA...



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